tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22575956.post1869359023493114736..comments2023-06-02T05:56:55.748-05:00Comments on Love Each Stone: "Charismatic Continualists" and "Non-Charismatic Continualists"David Rogershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11701934251748260267noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22575956.post-31706089241872005342007-01-31T09:59:00.000-06:002007-01-31T09:59:00.000-06:00David,
I would simply like to thank you for showi...David,<br /><br />I would simply like to thank you for showing us how two brothers with different interpretations of certain text can have a dialogue without attacking one another. I've seen two much of this from both sides. <br /><br />I direct a ministry in Amarillo, TX that has churches from several different denominations participating. I've learned a lot about how to navigate doctrinal differences from this exchange.<br /><br />Grace,<br /><br />Jeff Parsons<br />Amarillo, tXWTJeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04763127370356345182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22575956.post-27198296904002321782007-01-31T06:35:00.000-06:002007-01-31T06:35:00.000-06:00Hi David,
I also have not read all the blog corre...Hi David,<br /><br />I also have not read all the blog correspondence between you and Jonathan K. But I've read enough to see that I lean more toward your "open but cautious" stance. Maybe my position could be more accurately called "eager and cautious" -- eager in the Pauline sense of "eagerly desire spiritual gifts, especially that you may prophesy." <br /><br />I'd like to recommend to your readers two good books on this subject (-- and why aren't there more comments?!): <br /><br />1. <i>Empowered Evangelicals: Bringing Together the Best of the Evangelical and Charismatic Worlds</i> by Rich Nathan and Ken Wilson (Vine Books, 1995; foreword by J.I. Packer) <br /><br />2. <i>The Word and Power Church: What Happens when a Church Seeks All God Has to Offer</i> by Doug Banister (Zondervan, 2002). <br /><br />Both books are balanced, biblical, and wise in presentation. Very encouraging to me.<br /><br />I hope and pray that, once they consider these issues, many more SB pastors, churches, and missionaries will adopt a gracious stance similar to yours, and that one day, we'll have greater unity and greater cooperation in spreading the Good News. People are desperate to hear while we argue away! Let's get this squabble behind us as soon as possible. Or just get on with the work, with those who do share our values.<br /><br />With you, for His glory in the nations,<br />ToddTodd Nelsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18131930025633807723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22575956.post-18511623772735658512007-01-30T14:33:00.000-06:002007-01-30T14:33:00.000-06:00I apologise for not commenting earlier David, but ...I apologise for not commenting earlier David, but thought I should read all the material first before commenting... (and I still haven't.. I am still shell shocked by recent events).<br />It is very true that a person can have a continualist position and reject charismatic practices. Many of my closest friends here in ministry accept that position.<br />I have no problem with their position, although I personally disagree with them. I personally believe that the gospel itself should always have preeminence, rather than lesser doctrinal positions.<br />I don't think the current debate is actually going to be over continualist versus cessationist and its variations, but rather over deliberate attempts to distract from gospel ministry to charismatic extremism, and its effects upon major doctrines.<br />This is a very well written and argued article David: you are always to be commended for your thoughtful insights that are always enriching to the reader (and I am not gilding the lilly when i say that).<br />SteveGroseys messageshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09256060632754175527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22575956.post-34612681328010229162007-01-30T13:33:00.000-06:002007-01-30T13:33:00.000-06:00I've been trying for months to explain to a couple...I've been trying for months to explain to a couple of individuals that an interpretation that allows for the continuation of all the gifts is NEITHER Pentecostal nor "charismatic" in the truest sense of those terms.<br /><br />I'm beginning to believe that there are some who simply don't want to understand the differences. And I'm convinced that there are some who understand the differences but refuse publicly to acknowledge the differences.<br /><br />With Alan, I can't help but wonder at the absence of more comments.<br /><br />Thank you for this post and for the links. It is instructive, even though I imagine that some of our brothers wish it were not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22575956.post-78424857957365944782007-01-30T11:08:00.000-06:002007-01-30T11:08:00.000-06:00David,
I agree with you here. Believing in the co...David,<br /><br />I agree with you here. Believing in the continuance of "charismatic" gifts does not equal acceptance of pentacostal/charismatic theology. Even the belief that private prayer language is speaking in tongues to God and not to man, does not mean that someone accepts tongues as "ecstatic utterances".<br /><br />I'm surprised that you do not have more comments on this post. Do you think it is difficult to think outside the lines of traditional systematic theologies?<br /><br />-AlanAlan Knoxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07452247058550736803noreply@blogger.com